Comments for The Indian Nation / ... The cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend ... Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Sharmistha /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-32 Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:32:48 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-32 Hi Vivek I appreciate your time and patience and versatile angle of thoughts.
@ Milind Chitale I would say, that it is really good to reform ourselves with new thoughts and education. So, why do not you create something of your own that would represent the motherhood with more divinity and more patriotism, rather than commenting on the work of people who were laureates in their field. I think won’t it give you an opportunity to show your love for your nation in a better way. It is easy to contradict on something on which you do not have any clear evidence, but constructing a new and novel for the countrymen is not easy task. So first get that done and mass out. Later pen down your contradictions….

@ manu thomas. I appreciate your thought as well. But my question to you is did you read Sudamans information properly or not, I doubt…… this was a poem asked to be written by his friend to Tagore just for greetings not for any purpose of national anthem . So to keep his friend happy, and to convnce his patriotism for his motherland (if you read the whole anthem , especially the 5th stanza) he had devoted it to the eternal power and hailed God for his country. don’t you think that would be appropriate. Just before commenting I would suggest place yourself in his shoe for sometimes and think before pointing out. The nationalism was given by Gandhiji, not Rabindranath Tagore, so it is out of question that devotion of God why peers through National anthem.

@ both..If I have hurt your sentiments by any means I am sorry.. yet.. what I felt from your comments I could not pacify myself and wanted to keep my expression too. Hope you would understand.

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Sharmistha /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-35 Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:12:12 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-35 @ Milind Chalate…. again.. sorry but can’t resist to say that I feel you are an aethist else you are a super human being….else you would not comment this way,… Don’t you pray God… and again same time if your desires remain unfulfilled don’t you show anger on him…. why so?? then how should be different for the noble laureate… has He became God to overlook it right??

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Sharmistha /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-34 Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:07:51 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-34 @Milind Chalate, Thakur doesn’t means money then Chalate would be Chalte Chalte…do you agree??

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Sharmistha /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-33 Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:07:08 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-33 @Milind Chalate, Thakur doesn’t means money then Chalate would be Chalte Chalte…do you agree?? so.. why you comment on something without proper knowledge…

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by National Anthem « Personal Thoughts /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-31 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:54:13 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-31 […] the song was written to praise a certain king then please read the content in this site. This is one more link where a very systematic assessment has been […]

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by manu thomas /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-29 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:15:34 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-29 dear Vivek
its a brilliant work you have done i hope national anthem has to be one which is about our country our culture not a song which is to praise god……….

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Milind Chitale /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-28 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:38:45 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-28 And lastly,
If Jana Gana Mana is a song in praise of God then the controversy is within the character of Ravindra Nath Tagore; for one side he opposes intellectually the’god’s anger’ as sought by the divine meanignattached by Gandhi and yet on the other hand he praises the good lord God in a hymn.
Pitted against Vande Mataram, which was written as a song towards inciting people of India to fight imperialism and therefore a true patriotic song rather than Jana Gana Mana that is self-proclaimed praise of the ‘ultimate lord God’.
The real issue is not about ‘hurting’ the feelings of nation by raising the controversy towards the already ADOPTED hymn but is about a debating the sense and sensibility whether we did the right thing at that time and if the consensus arrive that we did wrong then to have the ABILITY and STRENGTH to CORRECT the wrong done.
(A latest controversy is similar: A learned person tries to refine Tulsi Ramayan by coming out with a GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT version of the same but the ‘PANDITS’ make a big hue and cry about it and claim that what ever was written by Tulsi was correct and the ‘learned person’ had no right to write to correct the language of such a ‘great’ person as Tulsi)
The fact is that throughout the world history at individual as well as mass societal level we WANT CHANGE but WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO!

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Milind Chitale /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-27 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:19:29 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-27 Further:
He had loads of monies being the land owner (therefore Thakure & not Tagore)
He righteously opposed M K Gandhi when Gandhi said that the people of North died due to a natural calamity that was termed as ‘divine anger’ against the atrocities done towards the lower caste.

In fact, being one of the greatest influence on all Bengali Minds (Even to-date), In am sure it was his Utopian philosophy that must have lead the bengali to be proud about their last name changes such as Chattopadhaya to Chatterji and Bandopadhyay to Bannerji and so on…

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Milind Chitale /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-26 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:13:13 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-26 In referring to the ‘greatness’ of Ravindra Nath Thakure (Why did he adopt the TAGORE if he was so staunch the supporter of India?) The chronology seems to have been lost:
01. He wrote the song in praise of the monarch in 1911 and sung himself at the INC
02. He was awarded Nobel prize in 1913 for his ‘Gitanjali’
03. He was awarded knighthood in 1915
04. Massacre of Jalianwala bagh happened in 1919 (4years after the award of knighthood) hence the returning of the knighthood happened after EIGHT YEARS of his ‘praise for the Monarch’!!!
Let us be very clear:
He was in opposition of nationalism the way Gandhi was promulgating.
He was functioning in the ‘Utopian’ manner as all Bengalis are influenced since Aurobindo.
He was an idealistic poet rather than a freedom fighter.

]]> Comment on The Story of National Anthem – The controversy by Amit Singh /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy/#comment-24 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:19:02 +0000 /the-story-of-national-anthem-the-controversy.html#comment-24 Can you please write on Mythological topics like Ganesha, Shiva and Vivekanand and Maha purush Like Karna…..

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